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Tuesday, 24. September 2002
Tuesday 2002-09-24 Web of ServicesSunset for web services A telling paragraph from an old article on connecting Microsoft Office applications with web services reveals why Sun has already lost web services battle. Making implementation of Web services easy for VBA, Visual Basic 6.0, and Visual Studio .NET developers is Microsoft's key tactic to maintain its front-of-the pack status among today's Web service Gang of 2.5. When Sun delivers on its Sun ONE promises and Oracle releases its SOAP-enabled 9i Application Server sometime in 2002, there'll be fierce competition for developer attention between the expanded Gang of Four. I'm betting that new SOAP-based developer toolkits, such as that for Office XP, and on-time release of Visual Studio .NET will make Windows the primary platform for hosting and consuming commercial XML Web services.Unlike IBM, Oracle, Microsoft or other middleware vendors like SAP,BEA, etc, Sun does not have siginificant data "sources" (databases) nor "sinks" (deskstop applications) nor "pipes" (middleware/messaging systems) that produce or consume or move data for web services. For this generation of data-centric web services, Sun provides little heat or light. ... Comment on Wednesday, 2002-09-25 06:16 UTC, blaine posted:
Re: Sunset for web services
I'm not about to place bets on the horse race, but my questions are somewhat different than those of Roger Jennings. Of course its not surprising that my perspective is different than that of Visual Studio Magazine. First, forget the horse race. Does anyone have useful technology? How does Sun's compare. Second, useful for what? Some see 'services' as an architecture for loosely coupled systems. Others see 'services' as a method of marketing backend content/functionality with a buz word. Others are interested in a method of wrapping legacy data. Most have a plumbing orientaiton. Increasingly people are having a tooling orientation. Here is a concrete question: Is Sun's offering likely to be useful to someone who now owns Sun's servers but has (potential) users who must have MS based apps? What about someone who does not have servers. Would SunOne be useful to someone who wants to stick a cluster of linux boxes between 6 departments and and some legacy systems plus some collaborators systems that use services using tools from IBM, TME, and Microsoft? The point is this: Where is (potential) value? Of course, in the case of SunOne, I'm not sure its there. But once we ask the value chain question, we can ask it of the VisualStudio people as well & I'm not sure I see the value except for building front ends. Of course, my crystal ball is a bit unwilling to revel the future of MS servers. Still, I'd not leap into a bet against Bea, IBM, etc. [Great hed!] |
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